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		<title>Is Sarah Palin a She or a They?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Constance Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ll bet you’ve had your fill this week of the former beauty queen, former mayor of Wasilla, former governor of Alaska, former vice-presidential candidate. I know I have. So while the pundits talk on and on about Sarah Palin, I space out and listen to their grammar.

I have to admit, I was surprised to hear Gwen Ifill and Bob Woodward, on ABC’s This Week, screw up their pronouns when discussing Going Rogue. It was the pronouns “going rogue” in their exchange.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll bet you’ve had your fill this week of the former beauty queen, former mayor of Wasilla, former governor of Alaska, former vice-presidential candidate. I know I have. So while the pundits talk on and on about Sarah Palin, I space out and listen to their grammar.</p>
<p>I have to admit, I was surprised to hear Gwen Ifill and Bob Woodward, on ABC’s <em>This Week</em>, screw up their pronouns when discussing <em>Going Rogue</em>. It was the pronouns “going rogue” in their exchange:</p>
<p>Ifill: “Women will be drawn to her story—and that’s who she’s speaking to…. These are people who are ignored, who nobody counts into their thinking.”</p>
<p>Woodward: “You can be drawn to somebody’s story—and buy their book and read their book. That doesn’t mean you want them to be President, or that you’re drawn to them to lead.</p>
<p>OK, OK, it’s not fair to expect perfect grammar when people are speaking extemporaneously. But c’mon! These are two of the country’s top journalists!</p>
<p>Gwen, it should be “<strong>whom</strong> she’s speaking to” and “<strong>whom</strong> nobody counts into their thinking.”</p>
<p>Bob, please. Isn’t one Sarah sufficient? <em>Somebody</em> is singular, so readers can buy <strong>her</strong> book and read <strong>her</strong> book and want <strong>her</strong> to be president and be drawn to <strong>her</strong> to lead.</p>
<p>Doesn’t Bob Woodward read this blog? I just wrote about <a href="http://www.sinandsyntax.com/blog/presidential-pronouns/" target="_blank">Barak Obama’s rogue pronouns </a>a few weeks ago!</p>


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		<title>Presidential pronouns</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Constance Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barak Obama may be a damn good rhetoritician, but his politically correct use of pronouns is bugging me. Take this, from the July 22 press conference when he waded into the Henry Louis Gates-Sgt. Crowley brouhaha: “I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

While pundits jumped on the President’s case for saying the Cambridge police acted “stupidly,” I muttered under my breath about his use of “they” when “he” or “she” was called for.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barak Obama may be a damn good rhetoritician, but his politically correct use of pronouns is bugging me. Take this, from the July 22 press conference when he waded into the Henry Louis Gates-Sgt. Crowley brouhaha: “I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”</p>
<p>While pundits jumped on the President’s case for saying the Cambridge police acted “stupidly,” I muttered under my breath about his use of “they” when “he” or “she” was called for.</p>
<p>It may be the height of pettiness to demand grammatical perfection of presidents speaking off the cuff. But this isn’t the only time Obama has committed this particular gaff. In a pre-election commercial he said, “Every parent in America wants the same thing: good education for their child.”</p>
<p>Doesn’t a good education include grammar?</p>
<p>Now, I had the same English teachers as our president—at Punahou School, in Honolulu—and to be honest I can’t remember what grammar lessons we got there. But I know that <em>somebody</em> is one of those troublesome indefinite pronouns (like <em>anyone, anybody, everyone, everybody, someone, somebody, no one</em>, and <em>nobody</em>) that is always singular.</p>
<p>I also know that I’m wading into one of the subjects that can make word nerds—not the type usually prone to unbridled passions—go apoplectic. Some recite history and a seemingly infinite string of writers (everyone from Spenser to Shakespeare, from Austen to Auden, from Mark Twain to Rudyard Kipling) who use “they” as a singular pronoun. (See <a href="http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/austheir.html#X1 " target="_blank">this screed</a> at crossmyt.com.)  Others (l<a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they" target="_blank">ike Merriam-Webster’s</a>) argue that if this is how people use the pronoun, we should all accept it. And others, like <a href="http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/he-they-generic-personal-pronoun.aspx" target="_blank">Grammar Girl</a>, advise us to play it safe by recasting sentences.</p>
<p>I’m interested neither in political correctness nor grammatical hypercorrectness. I’m interested in clarity. Using “their” to refer to a single person blurs lines and introduces ambiguity.</p>
<p>So, Mr. President: We know that Gates is a guy. Don’t use grammar stupidly. Go ahead and say the police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that he was in his own home.</p>


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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Constance Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you haven't noticed, each week I post a some writing and grammar exercises--an easy, self-guided writing class. Check out For Writers and Teachers, under Resources. I have a growing email list of teachers who receive once-a-week notes on using Sin and Syntax in the classroom. Please feel free to join us.

I tend to use this blog for thoughts on writing, but I'm feeling a pent-up desire to go grammatical. Next post: One of my biggest pet peeves and how I wish our Nobel-Peace-Prize-winning president didn't mash his pronouns.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you haven’t noticed, each week I post some writing and grammar exercises—a  easy, self-guided writing class. Check out <a href="http://www.sinandsyntaxsalon.com/for-writers/">For Writers and Teachers</a>, under Resources. I have a growing email list of teachers who receive once-a-week notes on using <em>Sin and Syntax</em> in the classroom. Please feel free to join us.</p>
<p>I try not to be a grammar pedagogue here, using this blog mostly for thoughts on writing. But I’m feeling a pent-up desire to go grammatical. Next post: One of my biggest pet peeves and how I wish our Nobel-Peace-Prize-winning president didn&#8217;t mash his pronouns.</p>


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		<title>The Wobbly Narrator</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Constance Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think I’m obsessed with point of view, you’re right! I am auditing a Harvard class taught by James Wood (also a critic for The New Yorker), who has been discussing point of view in novels by Saul Bellow and Vladimir Nabokov. And in the first lecture of the class, Postwar American and British Fiction, Woods suggested that we might “want to pick up some Flaubert” and look specifically at point of view. OK, so I devoured all 275 pages of Madame Bovary.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think I’m obsessed with point of view, you’re right! I am auditing a Harvard class taught by James Wood (also a critic for <em>The New Yorker</em>), who has been discussing point of view in novels by Saul Bellow and Vladimir Nabokov. And in the first lecture of the class, Postwar American and British Fiction, Woods suggested that we might “want to pick up some Flaubert” and look specifically at point of view. OK, so I devoured all 275 pages of <em>Madame Bovary</em>.</p>
<p>Flaubert pioneered—or at least put on the map—the “free indirect style,” in which an omniscient narrator suddenly evaporates, entering into a character’s consciousness and representing his or her thoughts. (Check out the market scene with Emma and her lover-to-be.)</p>
<p>Of course, in nonfiction, free indirect style works less well. I call a writer who engages in such shape-shifting a “Wobbly Narrator.” Most writers who jump around from “he” to “you” to “I” are novices who haven’t mastered point of view, or who are afraid to pick a stance toward the material—whether the first-person singular of memoir, the second-person singular of colloquial writers reaching out to readers, or the third-person singular of the reporter concerned with credibly and precisely observing others.</p>
<p>Lemme find some examples of The Wobbly Narrator. I&#8217;ll post them in comments—and invite you to do the same.</p>


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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Constance Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been thinking about point of view. After all, what defines a blog if not point of view? A blog brings you one person’s prejudices, insights, and endless opinions. (Of course, the best blogs bring you much more—like new information, credible reporting, and, sometimes, bursts of brilliant writing.)

But a blog often comes alive because of another aspect of point of view, the literary aspect. The writer sets this point of view by his or her choice of pronouns—I, we, you, he, one, they. I've pondered what point of view to use here: The soul-bearing I? The inclusive we, which can also verge into the elegant “editorial we” or the arrogant “royal we”? Or the informal you, capable of sliding from authoritative, even bossy, to irreverent and hip?


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been thinking about point of view. After all, what defines a blog if not point of view? A blog brings you one person’s prejudices, insights, and endless opinions. (Of course, the best blogs bring you much more—like new information, credible reporting, and, sometimes, bursts of brilliant writing.)</p>
<p>But a blog often comes alive because of another aspect of point of view, the <em>literary</em> aspect. The writer sets this point of view by his or her choice of pronouns—<em>I</em>, <em>we</em>, <em>you</em>, <em>he</em>, <em>one</em>, <em>they</em>. I&#8217;ve pondered what point of view to use here: The soul-bearing <em>I</em>? The inclusive <em>we</em>, which can also verge into the elegant “editorial we” or the arrogant “royal we”? Or the informal <em>you</em>, capable of sliding from authoritative, even bossy, to irreverent and hip?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.idiom.com/~rick/html/why_i_write.htm" target="_blank">Joan Didion once wrote </a>about the act of choosing the first person singular point of view: “In many ways writing is the act of saying<em> I</em>, of imposing oneself upon other people, of saying<em> listen to me, see it my way, change your mind.</em> It&#8217;s an aggressive, even a hostile act… There’s no getting around the fact that setting words on paper is the tactic of a secret bully, an invasion, an imposition of the writers sensibility on the readers most private space.”</p>
<p>As you see, I’m going for <em>I</em>, not because I’m a secret bully, but because I want <em>you</em>, my reader, to know that this is really coming from <em>me</em>. This point of view will, I hope, let me gush about writing, even as the articles on the site may have the much more reasoned third-person perspective of the journalist and critic.</p>
<p>I’ll post more about this soon, but in the meantime, talk to me about point of view. Have you seen blogs that dare to diverge from the first person? Are there journalists who go for something more revealing than the detached third person? Can you think of a nonfiction writer who uses <em>you</em> like the novelist Jay McInerney?</p>
<p>Who out there is playing with point of view?</p>


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